As Spain battles wildfires, its politicians battle over climate change's role

Crews are still battling wildfires that broke out last week and have burned nearly 200,000 acres across Spain. The country is bracing for another round of extreme heat, with temperatures expected to top 100 degrees Fahrenheit starting Wednesday.

Eve Irvine is pleased to welcome Alexander Held, Senior Expert of the Resilience Programme for Integrated Fire Management. He reframes Europe's wildfire crisis by arguing that the flames themselves are not the central problem but rather ecological and governance failures. Held asserts that fires are not unforeseeable n